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		<title>Comment on Mac vs PC by Brad Trivers</title>
		<link>http://sunriseweb.ca/2012/02/mac-vs-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Trivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok - I&#039;ll strike out this argument :-)

BTW - I absolutely love Apple products and even own an iPhone, iPod and Apple TV - just can&#039;t justify the cost for the full-fledged computer (Macs) or the tablet (iPad).  Also I use free software that is not compatible with Macs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok &#8211; I&#8217;ll strike out this argument <img src='http://sunriseweb.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BTW &#8211; I absolutely love Apple products and even own an iPhone, iPod and Apple TV &#8211; just can&#8217;t justify the cost for the full-fledged computer (Macs) or the tablet (iPad).  Also I use free software that is not compatible with Macs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mac vs PC by Jamie Reid</title>
		<link>http://sunriseweb.ca/2012/02/mac-vs-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your first link is talking about new versions of applications that breaking compatibility, not the OS; just as some new software for the new Windows 8 won&#039;t work on earlier Windows releases.

Of course the OS updates do break some software; however your post says:
&quot;you will also have to pay for upgrades to &lt;strong&gt;all the software you run on the computer&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;, which is simply false. 

I&#039;ve only had to pay for two applications&#039; upgrades over the years to stay at the current OS release out of the dozens and dozens of applications I use. 

YMMV, etc etc

Lots of reasons to not buy a Mac, but this &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; isn&#039;t one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your first link is talking about new versions of applications that breaking compatibility, not the OS; just as some new software for the new Windows 8 won&#8217;t work on earlier Windows releases.</p>
<p>Of course the OS updates do break some software; however your post says:<br />
&#8220;you will also have to pay for upgrades to <strong>all the software you run on the computer</strong>&#8220;, which is simply false. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only had to pay for two applications&#8217; upgrades over the years to stay at the current OS release out of the dozens and dozens of applications I use. </p>
<p>YMMV, etc etc</p>
<p>Lots of reasons to not buy a Mac, but this <em>really</em> isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mac vs PC by Brad Trivers</title>
		<link>http://sunriseweb.ca/2012/02/mac-vs-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Trivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some links / excerpts that appear to support what I&#039;m talking about.

&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/mac/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oxford University Computing Services&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: To date, Apple has released new versions of Mac OS X about every 2 years. Typically, each new version introduces a few features that are not fully backwards compatible. Mac software is regularly updated to use these features, which means that there can be no guarantee that Mac software (Apple or third-party) will run on all versions of the operating system. It is important when upgrading or installing software to check that it is compatible with the version of OS X that you run on your Mac.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/905/cpsid_90508.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Known issues &#124; Adobe products &#124; Mac OS 10.7 Lion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ianmurdock.com/platforms/on-the-importance-of-backward-compatibility/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;On the importance of backward compatibility&lt;/a&gt;: A lot of developers and engineers don’t agree with this way of working. If the application did something bad, or relied on some undocumented behavior, they think, it should just break when the OS gets upgraded. The developers of the Macintosh OS at Apple have always been in this camp. It’s why so few applications from the early days of the Macintosh still work…

To contrast, I’ve got DOS applications that I wrote in 1983 for the very original IBM PC that still run flawlessly, thanks to the Raymond Chen Camp at Microsoft.

I can almost feel the revulsion among my readership right about now. However, next time you’re in Best Buy or CompUSA, look at the shelf of Windows applications, then compare it to the shelf of Mac applications, and perhaps you’ll better understand why it’s important.&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some links / excerpts that appear to support what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
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<li><strong><a href="http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/mac/" rel="nofollow">Oxford University Computing Services</a></strong>: To date, Apple has released new versions of Mac OS X about every 2 years. Typically, each new version introduces a few features that are not fully backwards compatible. Mac software is regularly updated to use these features, which means that there can be no guarantee that Mac software (Apple or third-party) will run on all versions of the operating system. It is important when upgrading or installing software to check that it is compatible with the version of OS X that you run on your Mac.</li>
<li><a href="http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/905/cpsid_90508.html" rel="nofollow">Known issues | Adobe products | Mac OS 10.7 Lion</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ianmurdock.com/platforms/on-the-importance-of-backward-compatibility/" rel="nofollow">On the importance of backward compatibility</a>: A lot of developers and engineers don’t agree with this way of working. If the application did something bad, or relied on some undocumented behavior, they think, it should just break when the OS gets upgraded. The developers of the Macintosh OS at Apple have always been in this camp. It’s why so few applications from the early days of the Macintosh still work…
<p>To contrast, I’ve got DOS applications that I wrote in 1983 for the very original IBM PC that still run flawlessly, thanks to the Raymond Chen Camp at Microsoft.</p>
<p>I can almost feel the revulsion among my readership right about now. However, next time you’re in Best Buy or CompUSA, look at the shelf of Windows applications, then compare it to the shelf of Mac applications, and perhaps you’ll better understand why it’s important.</li>
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		<title>Comment on Mac vs PC by Jamie Reid</title>
		<link>http://sunriseweb.ca/2012/02/mac-vs-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Apple computers also have higher ongoing costs because software is not backwards compatible.  This means that if you upgrade the operating system then you will also have to pay for upgrades to all the software you run on the computer. &quot;

Huh? This is patent nonsense.

I&#039;ve upgraded various Macs through OS versions over the years and transitioned to new hardware. Run old software all the time. Much more often is the case that new versions of these applications don&#039;t support an older OS that you might still be running. If XP wasn&#039;t so entrenched, I&#039;d imagine this would be the case for Windows 7 software developers too. 

I can only assume you&#039;re referring to &#039;Rosetta&#039; being dropped from OS X 10.7, five years after the last PowerPC-based Mac shipped. Anyone looking at Macs today will be unaffected by this*. 

*Except for Quicken. Intuit is a pack of idiots and still doesn&#039;t have a version of its Mac software that works with Intel-based Macs, but it&#039;s still not a point in favour of your claim, since you can&#039;t even buy a new version of Quicken. Idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Apple computers also have higher ongoing costs because software is not backwards compatible.  This means that if you upgrade the operating system then you will also have to pay for upgrades to all the software you run on the computer. &#8221;</p>
<p>Huh? This is patent nonsense.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve upgraded various Macs through OS versions over the years and transitioned to new hardware. Run old software all the time. Much more often is the case that new versions of these applications don&#8217;t support an older OS that you might still be running. If XP wasn&#8217;t so entrenched, I&#8217;d imagine this would be the case for Windows 7 software developers too. </p>
<p>I can only assume you&#8217;re referring to &#8216;Rosetta&#8217; being dropped from OS X 10.7, five years after the last PowerPC-based Mac shipped. Anyone looking at Macs today will be unaffected by this*. </p>
<p>*Except for Quicken. Intuit is a pack of idiots and still doesn&#8217;t have a version of its Mac software that works with Intel-based Macs, but it&#8217;s still not a point in favour of your claim, since you can&#8217;t even buy a new version of Quicken. Idiots.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Buying a New Computer? by Mac vs PC &#124; SunriseWeb.ca</title>
		<link>http://sunriseweb.ca/2011/10/buying-a-new-computer/comment-page-1/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac vs PC &#124; SunriseWeb.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when I recommended what computer to buy I didn&#8217;t even mention Apple products like the iMac, Macbook or Macbook Air.  I still [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when I recommended what computer to buy I didn&#8217;t even mention Apple products like the iMac, Macbook or Macbook Air.  I still [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Getting Rid Of Satellite TV? by Brad Trivers</title>
		<link>http://sunriseweb.ca/2011/11/getting-rid-of-satellite-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Trivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was into video games then good suggestion.  But for $120 (not on sale) and simple usability Apple TV did it for me.  I must admit that perhaps the $190 Boxee might be a better device - but the &quot;airplay&quot; option with Apple devices (like iPhone, iPod, iPad) likely wouldn&#039;t work.

I will definitely looking into free-to-air satellite, and just simple free HD broadcasts (e.g. CBC).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was into video games then good suggestion.  But for $120 (not on sale) and simple usability Apple TV did it for me.  I must admit that perhaps the $190 Boxee might be a better device &#8211; but the &#8220;airplay&#8221; option with Apple devices (like iPhone, iPod, iPad) likely wouldn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>I will definitely looking into free-to-air satellite, and just simple free HD broadcasts (e.g. CBC).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Getting Rid Of Satellite TV? by Derek</title>
		<link>http://sunriseweb.ca/2011/11/getting-rid-of-satellite-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or find a playstation on sale for about $250.  It connects to your home network, plays all your media, can play netflix and is a much better game console then that apple thingy.  Not sure about iTunes but wasn&#039;t the point to save money?  Also look at free to air satellite (un-encrypted).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or find a playstation on sale for about $250.  It connects to your home network, plays all your media, can play netflix and is a much better game console then that apple thingy.  Not sure about iTunes but wasn&#8217;t the point to save money?  Also look at free to air satellite (un-encrypted).</p>
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		<title>Comment on WordPress Plugins by Interview with Brad Trivers - WP Mayor</title>
		<link>http://sunriseweb.ca/2011/03/recommended-wordpress-plugins/comment-page-1/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>Interview with Brad Trivers - WP Mayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] any particular WordPress plugins which you use recurrently in your projects?Yes.  I created this WordPress Plugins post to list them on SunriseWeb.ca.I know you’re currently developing a very interesting reservation plugin. Could you tell us more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] any particular WordPress plugins which you use recurrently in your projects?Yes.  I created this WordPress Plugins post to list them on SunriseWeb.ca.I know you’re currently developing a very interesting reservation plugin. Could you tell us more [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hunter River Showcase by Karen</title>
		<link>http://sunriseweb.ca/2011/05/hunter-river-mommy-showcase-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 14:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all who visited the Showcase and Congratulations to Amy M. who won the bottle of Sunrise Merlot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all who visited the Showcase and Congratulations to Amy M. who won the bottle of Sunrise Merlot!</p>
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		<link>http://sunriseweb.ca/2011/03/recommended-wordpress-plugins/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>5 Steps To A New Website &#124; SunriseWeb.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 11:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by ElegantThemes.com where we have a developers’ license -  check them out now!  We will also install &#8220;plugins&#8221; to add functionality you need in your [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by ElegantThemes.com where we have a developers’ license -  check them out now!  We will also install &#8220;plugins&#8221; to add functionality you need in your [...]</p>
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